Curse

willie nelson · May 27, 2010, 05:54 PM // 17:54

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...-Game-Accounts

Might be a good time to change your password again just in case.

Cuilan · May 27, 2010, 05:58 PM // 17:58

I don't care what the makers of Norton say. There isn't much to discuss here considering the source.

sixdartbart · May 27, 2010, 06:03 PM // 18:03

The 1 and only time I have ever had a serious bug on my computer it was tied into files from my Norton antivirus.
Needless to say I don't use Norton anymore nor would I believe them if they said the sun will come up tomorrow.

Sarevok Thordin · May 27, 2010, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Norton lol.

What a bloated pile of crap.

shoyon456 · May 27, 2010, 06:05 PM // 18:05

Am I the only one happy with Norton?

Inde · May 27, 2010, 06:08 PM // 18:08

I don't think Norton is the real story here (regardless of your feelings)... they merely stumbled across the info.

Hells Fury · May 27, 2010, 06:14 PM // 18:14

"Anti-virus company Symantec..."
stopped reading right there
a company that does a review of everything, browsers, antivirus, firewalls yet they can't fix their own sh*t

Rikimaru · May 27, 2010, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Norton is the worst piece of trash excuse for antivirus software I've ever encountered. That crap itself might be worse malware than half the stuff it's supposed to block. It's a miracle it has any level of popularity.
I don't know about other people, but it was actually set up in such a way that I'm incapable of removing it from my computer. I was forced to sabotage the program by deleting core files so it simply could not run itself properly anymore (which was not easy to do, since you cannot delete files in use and the thing also runs itself automatically and doesn't like you forcing it to shut down).
And this is from a version of it that was provided for free on a disc with my new motherboard

Basically, yes, they are the kind of people that would lie about that to get you to use them.
They would probably light your home on fire and steal your cell phone just so they could wait outside to sell you defective fire extinguishers at 10x normal cost, then if the smoke caused you to pass out, they would cut out your kidney and try to sell it back to you later.

Alesa · May 27, 2010, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Quote:

"If you are in possession of a gaming account from one of the websites listed above," he added, "an update of your password would not go amiss."

Uhh, did that just imply that NCSoft was unsafe? I mean, this article is saying that 2 million of us have these trojans on our computers and don't know about it. That's a pretty high #, especially amongst gamers who tend to be on at least an average side of computer literate.

guildwnerd · May 27, 2010, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoyon456

Am I the only one happy with Norton?

yes, yes you are the only one.

sixdartbart · May 27, 2010, 06:29 PM // 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoyon456

Am I the only one happy with Norton?

It would seem so but fear not, you will get over it.

@ Rikimaru
I had the same problems just trying to get their pos program off of my computer even with the Norton removal program so I went to whatthetech.com and got some help {those guys ROCK!}
The person helping me had created his own program to completely remove the Norton files, it wasn't easy but it got it done so if you are interested go give them a shout for help.

Back on Topic
Norton is trash and I don't believe a thing they say!!!

Deviant Angel · May 27, 2010, 06:29 PM // 18:29

ORLY?! 2 million of us?! Well I'll be damned, my antivirus hasn't detected anything. MUST INSTALL NORTON!

Not...

GoF · May 27, 2010, 06:37 PM // 18:37

I don't think the article is talking about 2 million of 'US', but just about 2 million compromised computers so that login attempts can be done from multiple IPs... without having to worry about a temp IP ban.

akio pwns · May 27, 2010, 06:38 PM // 18:38

well, i havent had an attack on my computer other than stupid low level tracking cookies, and ill thank norton.

Not my fault if the cause of peoples malware problems is because they go to untrusted sites.

Also didnt have to change anything for it to run or other programs to run normally.

Alesa · May 27, 2010, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoF

I don't think the article is talking about 2 million of 'US', but just about 2 million compromised computers so that login attempts can be done from multiple IPs... without having to worry about a temp IP ban.

No, it's talking about 'US'

Quote:

The database holds approximately 17GB of "flat file data" from at least 18 different games, including roughly 60,000 Aion accounts, 210,000 World of Warcraft accounts, two million NCsoft accounts (shared across multiple games like Lineage 2, Guild Wars and City of Heroes) and 16 million Wayi Entertainment accounts

Ghost Dog · May 27, 2010, 06:43 PM // 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by akio pwns

well, i havent had an attack on my computer other than stupid low level tracking cookies, and ill thank norton.

Not my fault if the cause of peoples malware problems is because they go to untrusted sites.

Also didnt have to change anything for it to run or other programs to run normally.

My friend virus infections these days aren't meant to be seen, no fluctuating ping or desktop pop ups, performance loss etc like before.

Norton is far from good protection you would be far better with an ESET free trial or kapersky, a friend of mine said this a week ago and I think it holds truth, in the future almost every computer will have a virus the only difference will be who is treating it the best.

Feathermoore Rep · May 27, 2010, 06:44 PM // 18:44

I never had a problem with norton (til i had to pay to renew). It ran nicely and quietly in the background and caught anything that spybot resident didnt for well over 3 years.

GoF · May 27, 2010, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alesa

No, it's talking about 'US'

It doesn't say that the info was gathered through 'US'. They don't need a GW client to login to your NC Soft account, so random people that never heard of GW may be infected, not especially 'US'. At least that's what I understood from the article, English isn't my mother tongue

Alesa · May 27, 2010, 06:54 PM // 18:54

You know reading that over again, the fact they had Aion listed separately. They have 2 million PlayNC accounts. Not Guild Wars, CoH, or Lineage 2 accounts. But your master NCSoft account.

Which means, since Guild Wars not to long ago REMOVED the extra security from our PlayNC accounts that this was indeed a dumb move. Let's all refer back to this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...light=security Where they took a step backward with their security and now we find out that we are indeed vulnerable despite ArenaNet's claims.

Once again, let us unlink our accounts from PlayNC ArenaNet.

Winterclaw · May 27, 2010, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inde

I don't think Norton is the real story here (regardless of your feelings)... they merely stumbled across the info.

That. We all know NCsoft's security (tries to think of an appropriate saying) has leaks like a sieve in a waterfall. We just now know about how bad it is.